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50 Reasons why the Bible doesn't mention TRINITY
or refer to God as PERSONS.

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  Introduction:

  What you are about to read is 50 reasons why the Bible does NOT mention the word "trinity" or refer to God as "persons" ... anywhere. Well, actually, the word "trinity" did not even come into existence until a couple centuries AFTER Christ. But you would probably be surprised to know just how many people think, or have been led to believe that both the word "trinity" AND God being referred to as "persons" can be found written "verbatim" on the pages of the Bible, and that's just not the case.

The 50 reasons why the Bible doesn't mention the word "trinity" ... or refer to God as "persons" ... follows the introduction that I email to those who respond to one of my other web pages and wishes to discuss the subject of the Godhead.

The following introduction is emailed with the 50 reasons:

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All Biblical references are taken from the King James Version of the Bible.

The word "persons" is NOT used a single time in the entire Bible to describe God or the Godhead. However, the word "Person" is used once in Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his "PERSON," and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:"

The Greek word used here, that was translated "person," is hupostasis (Strong's # 5287) which means -

1) a setting or placing under

1a) thing put under, substructure, foundation

2) that which has foundation, is firm

2a) that which has actual existence

2a1) a substance, real being

2b) the substantial quality, nature, of a person or thing

2c) the steadfastness of mind, firmness, courage, resolution

2c1) confidence, firm trust, assurance

Jesus said in John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

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Here's the definition of "person" as it appears in my Webster's Dictionary:

person: n. [< OFr. < L. persona, lit., actor's mask, hence a person]

1. a human being; individual man, woman, or child

2. a) a living human body b) bodily appearance [to be neat about one's person]

3. personality; self

4. Gram. a) division into three sets of pronouns (personal pronouns), and, usually, corresponding verb forms, to identify the subject: see FIRST PERSON, SECOND PERSON, THIRD PERSON b) any of these sets

5. Law any individual or incorporated group having certain legal rights and responsibilities - in person actually present.

Therefore, it is my opinion that the word "person" is really not adequate to describe Almighty God, who is also invisible (Colossians 1:15; 1 Timothy 1:17;) and omnipresent throughout the universe (Psalms 139:7-10; Jeremiah 23:23-24). At any rate, I use the term "person" in reference to God when discussing the scriptures with those who embrace the three "persons" of God theory (as I once did) in order to relate to them in language they, hopefully, can understand.

I've had many Bible discussions and debates with those who had impressive titles and degrees behind their name (who were far superior to me in secular education), on the subject of the three "persons" of God THEORY and "easy believing" with fruitless faith vs. the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine of Jesus Christ (being God manifested in flesh -the complete embodiment of every attribute, characteristic and nature of God) ... of repentance, water baptism in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, the infilling of the Holy Spirit (the Bible way) and living a clean and godly life of separation, dedication and commitment while reaching out to a lost and dying world. Notice I referred to the three "persons" of God being THEORY. That's because it is NOT found anywhere in the Bible described as trinitarians describe it, but is based entirely upon suggestions, conjecture and very carefully selected scriptures which have been given "implied" meanings in an attempt to support such a THEORY.

Past experience has taught me that a discussion is a discussion ONLY when it is done decently and in order. Otherwise, it is just an argumentative debate, much like a tennis match of hitting the tennis ball back and forth, picking and chosing what is addressed and what is not. I've had more "tennis matches" than I care to mention ... with people who only "parrot" the "pet" verses of their indoctrination and ask the same questions they've been trained to ask, without really giving serious consideration to what I presented to them ... or being open minded enough to lay aside their indoctrination which is not "sound doctrine" and backed up "verbatim" in the scriptures, the way they present it ... and independently evaluate God's Word. Normally, this type of person will just respond to the parts that they have been trained to handle, and let the rest go. I am convinced that God's Word is NOT pages with blanks which have to be filled in. No, it is NOT lacking in any way, shape, form or fashion.

The revelation and explanation of the three "persons" theory which evolved from pagan Rome centuries AFTER Christ has been very effectively instilled into the hearts and minds of many people by the blind who are leading the blind or either the wolves in sheep's clothing who have lined their pockets from the blood, sweat and tears of good, decent and honorable (but misled) people. I have made it my business to expose their doctrine for what it is. Those who are honorable like Apollos of Acts Chapter 18 was, will recieve the Word of God. But those who aren't will either have to ignore me or wrestle with the scriptures in an attempt to prove me wrong, if they can. And you know what? THEY CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG! They know it (or soon find it out) and I know it. The dishonest ones who have feathered their nest, made merchandise of people and/or just tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear, have no intentions of rocking their boat ... and they get really mad at me for doing what God has called me to do. But if the Truth hurts ... it ought to!

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  After much frustration of having to wade back through tons of email and correspondence trying to find out how something was said or **IF** something was said, I finally came up with a format and a method of discussing the scriptures that keeps both parties from picking and chosing what they respond to or sweeping anything under the rug. It also keeps the discussion flowing in an orderly fashion.

Therefore, I've started this discussion off by NUMBERING each one of my 50 points (or 50 reasons why the Bible does NOT mention the word "trinity" or refer to God as "persons"), which are preceded by my name. If you would like to respond, you can copy and paste just the point(s) you wish to respond to, or you can copy and paste the whole thing to your word processor or onto a blank email page, then insert your responses immediately following any of my NUMBERED points, by typing your name ahead of each of your responses as I have done ... OR if you do not wish to copy and paste, you can just list the point # you are responding to ahead of each response and send them to me at: Acts2@impact-ministry.com

If you wish to put forth some points of your own which do not counter any of my NUMBERED points, just start with # 51 for your first point ... which is the next number following my last NUMBERED point of this discussion ... and number each of your points beginning with the next number and putting your name before your point(s) (as I have done). Then email everything back to me so I can copy, paste, insert my responses point by point and send it all back to you again. Doing this alternately will prevent either one of us from sweeping anything underneath the rug or skipping over a point. A point put forth which is not countered by the other party will stand as being accepted by both parties.

Only those points and counter points which are currently being put forth and/or challenged need be copied, pasted and sent to the other party. Those which have been resolved or have stood without being countered or challenged can be left off ... keeping the NUMBERED points with all the counter points together and within the same email ... so that nothing gets split up. This should enable us to keep the discussion flowing in an orderly manner.

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  A couple more things before we start ... I trust that you accept the King James Version of the Holy Bible just as it is written ... and don't believe it contradicts itself, or needs anything added to it or taken from it. **IF** this is NOT the case, we do not have any common ground for a discussion anyway. I fully intend to live my life and base my convictions upon the King James Version of the Bible. You are free to do as you please.

**IF** a discussion ensues from this, let it be firmly established that an interpretation of a particular scripture which does not harmonize with the preponderance of scriptural evidence elsewhere in the Bible on the same subject is NOT a correct interpretation.

Also, rather than admitting error, some will just want to "agree to disagree" ... but what the Bible says to you, it says to me and vice versa. There are no private interpretations. Lastly, disagreements should never become insults and/or personal attacks. Doctrines and/or the effects of indoctrination are fair game ... but personal attacks are out of bounds.

Unless you agree to the terms of this discussion, and give your word to comply, there is absolutely no need in proceeding, as my only interest is in Truth in its entirety ... not arguing over creeds, statements, articles of faith, declarations, commentaries, traditions, ideas and opinions. Thanks ... and God bless!

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Bobby G. Richardson.

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50 reasons why the Bible does NOT mention TRINITY or refer to God as PERSONS.

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POINT # 1. Bobby: The term "Godhead" is used three times in the King James Version of the Bible, and means "the very essence or complete nature and attributes" of God ... not just one of them or some of them ... but ALL of them. The three Greek words that were translated "Godhead" are:

The Greek word "theios" - Strong's # 2304

The Greek word "theiotes" - Strong's # 2305

The Greek word "theotes" - Strong's # 2320

The verses were the words are found are as follows ....

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead (theios) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead (theiotes); so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9 For in him (Christ) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead (theotes) bodily.

Now, let's run back through these verses again and see what they would look like by replacing the word "Godhead" with the words, "very essence or complete nature and attributes" of God (which is what the "Godhead" is):

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that his ("very essence or complete nature and attributes") is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and ("very essence or complete nature and attributes;") so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9 For in him (Christ) dwelleth all the fullness of the ("very essence or complete nature and attributes" - of God) bodily.

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POINT # 2. Bobby: God is referred to throughout the entire Bible in the singular as .... I, ME, MY, HE, HIS and HIM. However, some people today attempt to use the Hebrew word "Elohim" (Strong’s # 430) ... which is translated "God", "god" and "goddess" in the Old Testament to assert that God is a plurality of three separate and distinct co-equal, co-eternal and co-existent "persons." Israel had just ONE LORD according to Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is ONE LORD:" (Not two ... not three ... ONE!). To assert that God is actually a plurality of three separate and distinct "persons" who are co-equal, co-eternal and co-existent with one another either portrays three individual "persons" of Deity like three members making up one family/household, OR portrays God as being one "person" with three "heads" ... either of which is about as pagan and polytheistic as you can get, and an abomination to boot, in my opinion.

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POINT # 3. Bobby: It is inconsistent to insist that the word "Elohim" identifies a "plurality" of "persons" when referring to God, and then turn right around and insist that the same word in other places identifies a "singular" (one) person only. Shouldn't the word "trio" always mean "more" than one regardless of where it is used ... or who it is referring to? It seems to me like it should. Now, notice the "singular" (NOT plural) references to God in this very small sampling of scriptures which follows:

Deuteronomy 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) "He" is God; there is none else beside "Him." (The LORD <SINGULAR> ... "He" <SINGULAR> ... is God. There is no plurality in this scripture ... there are no associates with God.)

Deuteronomy 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) "He" is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. (The LORD <SINGULAR> is God. No plurality here either ... still no associates.)

Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) thy God, "He" is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love "Him" and keep "His" commandments to a thousand generations; (The LORD <SINGULAR> is God. Still no plurality ... still no associates.)

Joshua 2:11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) your God, "He" is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath. (The LORD <SINGULAR> ... Nope! No plurality and no associates here either.)

Psalms 100:3 Know ye that the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) "He" is God: it is "He" that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are "His" people, and the sheep of "His" pasture. (THE LORD <SINGULAR> is God who made us.)

2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God, save the LORD (YHWH <Jehovah> - Strong's # 3068) ? and who is a rock, save our God? (THE LORD <SINGULAR> is God.)

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POINT # 4. Bobby: Now I would like to share with you some places in the Bible where the Hebrew word "Elohim" (Strong’s # 430) is used where it DEFINITELY does NOT refer to God ... but is definitely referring to ONE ... NOT two, or three ... ONE! And in so doing, I submit to you that those who use this word in an effort to assert a plurality of "persons" of GOD are only doing so in an effort to support the man made theory of three "persons" of God. And according to Leviticus 19:36; Ezekiel 45:10; Proverbs 11:1; and Micah 6:11 ... as well as the following scriptures ... is a double standard (an unjust balance), a definite abomination in the sight of God! Now, here's the examples which I offer as proof that the use of the word Elohim should NOT be used by anyone to "imply" or suggest that the "Hear O Israel, the LORD our God is ONE LORD" of Deuteronomy 6:4 is actually MORE than one LORD ... OR more than ONE PERSON.

Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - (Moses was one)

Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. -(There is no other "person" or "persons" with God)

Judges 6:31 And Joash said unto all that stood against him, Will ye plead for Baal? will ye save him? he that will plead for him, let him be put to death whilst it is yet morning: if he be a god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430), let him plead for himself, because one hath cast down his altar. -(baal was one)

Judges 9:27 And they went out into the fields, and gathered their vineyards, and trode the grapes, and made merry, and went into the house of their god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430), and did eat and drink, and cursed Abimelech. -(the house of their god was one)

Judges 9:46 And when all the men of the tower of Shechem heard that, they entered into an hold of the house of the god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) Berith. -(berith was one)

Judges 11:24 Wilt not thou possess that which Chemosh thy god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) giveth thee to possess? So whomsoever the LORD our God shall drive out from before us, them will we possess. -(chemosh was one)

Judges 16:23 Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430), and to rejoice: for they said, Our god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand. -(dagon was one)

Judges 16:24 And when the people saw him, they praised their god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430): for they said, Our god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us. -(their god, dagon, was one)

1 Kings 11:33 Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) of the Moabites, and Milcom the god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430) of the children of Ammon, and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father. -(here we have ELOHIM being used individually to describe ashtoreth, chemosh, and milcom ... each of whom were still only one ... not a plurality)

1 Kings 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god (ELOHIM -Strong’s # 430); either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. -(baal was one)

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POINT # 5. Bobby: Thus far, we have seen where the LORD <SINGULAR> "HE" is God, and we've seen where the Hebrew word ELOHIM (Strong’s # 430) is used where it is NOT referring to a plurality of more than ONE. Yet we have so called Bible scholars who insist that when "ELOHIM" is used in reference to God, it is plural because they theorize there are three "persons" of God ... which is total nonsense! The three co-equal "persons" theory of the Godhead evolved several centuries AFTER Christ, and is polytheistic and/or attempts to portray God as three separate "persons" who make up one family/household, or either portrays God as one "person" with "three heads" .... both of which are ludicrous (and blasphemous, in my opinion).

I fear for people who see no harm in this man made doctrine ... especially those who vigorously defend and propagate it. I'm telling you in the fear of God it is diametrically opposed to the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine. And I am warning people to turn away from it, and turn to the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine as found very plainly in the Bible ... in simple language, and understood without the need of a slide ruler, a law degree, or a library full of books, commentaries and research material.

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POINT # 6. Bobby: English was my worst subject in school, but I do remember a few things. For illustration purposes only, it is not proper to link the singular pronoun "He", which refers to one "person", to verbs like: "see", "hear" and "warn" ... which would look like this ... "He see", "He hear" and "He warn". When using the singular pronoun "He", it is necessary to use the verbs "sees", "hears" and "warns" ... "He SEES", "He HEARS" and "He WARNS". In order to use the verbs "see", "hear" and "warn", you must use a noun or pronoun which is "plural" and identifies "more" than one person like, "People" ... "People see", "People hear" and "People warn". Yet, intelligent people who know this rule, but who have been indoctrinated to believe that there are three "persons" of God, ignore this rule when it comes to the word "GOD".

**IF** the word "GOD" identifies more than one "person", as the trinitarians insist, the Bible should read like this, "God SEE", "God HEAR" and "God WARN" ... AND IT DOESN'T! The word "GOD" is never linked to a verb like that. Instead, the word "GOD" is ALWAYS linked to verbs just as the word "He" (a singular person) is ... like this, "God SEES", "God HEARS" and "God WARNS". Again, I use these particular words for illustration purposes only, but I hope I have made my point ... and that it's CLEAR.

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POINT # 7. Bobby: "Hear, 0 Israel: the Lord our God is ONE LORD." Deuteronomy 6:4. This commandment given to Israel is confirmed in the New Testament (Mark 12:29) and must be obeyed by all Christians today. "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19. "God is a Spirit..." John 4:24. "No man hath seen God at anytime..." John 1:18. God, the invisible Spirit, has only revealed Himself to man by manifestations.

Although there were various "theophanies" (manifestations) of God before the Incarnation (as the burning bush, pillar of fire and cloud, etc.), the Scriptures teach that there are three offices in which God has manifested Himself to mankind. God manifested Himself as the Father in creation, the Son in redemption, and the Holy Spirit (Comforter) living in the hearts of believers as the "earnest" (part) of our inheritance for the entire duration of the New Testament Church Dispensation until that which is perfect is come .... which, according to John 7:39, Acts 1:4-5 and Acts 2:1-4, began on the Day of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2 ... following the departure (ascension) of the resurrected body of Jesus Christ.

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POINT # 8. Bobby: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1. No one else but God performed the miracle of creation. "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" Isaiah 44:24. And God said, "Let us make man in our image..." Genesis 1:26.

To use the word "us" and try to form other Gods ... or other "persons" ... as if there was "more" than ONE involved in the creation, clashes not only with the Scriptures, but with common sense. The word God means Supreme Being, the eternal and infinite Spirit, Creator and Sovereign of the universe. There cannot be more than one Supreme Being. By no means was God talking or counseling with other "persons" or other Gods. It should be obvious that God was NOT talking to any assistants or co-equal, co-eternal and co-existent PERSONS who were about to help Him make man. God knows the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10).

The Incarnation did not take place until centuries later when the virgin conceived and gave birth to the Christ child (Galatians 4:4). God is an invisible Spirit without flesh and bones (Colossians 1:15; John 4:24; and Luke 24:39). God speaks of things that are not as though they are (Romans 4:17). And He counsels with Himself ... His own will (Ephesians 1:11). We know that God did not have any assistants in the creation of man because of what the very next verse says ... So God created man in HIS (singular) own image, in the image of God created HE (singular) him (NOT "created 'they' him"); male and female created HE (singular)them (NOT "created 'they' them"). Genesis 1:27.

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POINT # 9. Bobby: Furthermore, we know that angels are in the presence of God, but they weren't involved in the actual creation process either. So the explanation of Genesis 1:26 has to be found in the foreknowledge of God who knows the beginning from the end and the end form the beginning ... and speaks of those things which are not as though they are ... because man was created in the image and likeness of God, but was created flesh and bones ... NOT an invisible spirit as God is ... even though there couldn't have been a flesh and bones person physically present at the time Adam was created.

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POINT # 10. Bobby: At the time Adam was created, and in the mind of God (the eternal Spirit), He foresaw and precisely knew everything about the image (body) of the Son (as He would be known), and in which He would one day reveal Himself to man. Furthermore, God knows everything from beginning to end and vice versa. He already knew about temporary tabernacle that He would have Moses to construct, and the temporary tabernacle of flesh that He would prepare of a virgin and one day reveal Himself to mankind in. He already knew about Gethsemane, Golgotha and the Day of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2. The Son (the tabernacle of flesh) did not exist at the creation as a separate Spirit, being or "person" ... but only in the mind, foreknowledge and plan of God.

The Bible is correct is saying the Word "was with" God, and the Word "was" God, because God cannot be separated from His Thought, Plan or Word any more than you and I can. Otherwise, (regardless if it is held that the Word "was" God, but no longer is, or if it is held that the Word "was" God and still is), those who believe John 1:1 describes two separate and distinct "persons" (God and the Word) would be clashing with Monotheism by putting forth a TWO God theory ... because John 1:1 specifically states, "... and the Word WAS God."

Our thought, plan or word is NOT a separate "person" from us ... IT IS US! "But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son (the tabernacle of flesh), made of a woman, made under the law." Galatians 4:4. The Son, who is the image of God, was begotten thousands of years after the creation. Also God spoke of things which be not as though they were. Romans 4:17. "So God created man in HIS OWN IMAGE," Genesis 1:27. "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of Him that was to come. Romans 5:14. God made Adam in the figure of Him that was to come ... JESUS!

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POINT # 11. Bobby: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1. The Word cannot be separated from God. The term "Word" is derived from the Greek term "logos" which means "thought or plan". God’s thoughts are with Him, but they cannot be separated from Him any more than we can be separated from our word, thought or plan. "The Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD." "All things were made by Him (Word); and without Him (Word) was not anything made that was made." John 1:3. "...The worlds were framed by the Word of God..." Hebrews 11:3. "And God said" is found throughout the story of Creation in Genesis Chapter One. So by His "Word" God created all things by speaking them into existence ... except Adam, and later on Eve ... who was made from Adam.

Some try to make a play on words here as if the Word and God are two separate "persons." "Was" was used three times in John 1:1 because the Creation was being discussed in the "past" tense. "Is" is used when discussing something in the "present" tense. It would NOT have been proper to have written John 1:1 like this ... "In the beginning "is" the Word, and the Word "is" with God, and the Word "is" God. Therefore, for anyone to take the words of John 1:1 and try to build a case for two different "persons" is grossly in error.

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POINT # 12. Bobby: "Thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it...I am the LORD; and there is NONE ELSE." Isaiah 45:18. "...I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF." Isaiah 44:24. ".. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Isaiah 44:8. "See now that I, even I, am He, and there is NO GOD WITH ME..." Deuteronomy 32:39. "Have we not all ONE Father? Hath not ONE God created us" Malachi 2:10. Do you see three "persons" in any of the above? I sure don't!

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POINT # 13. Bobby: God is an invisible, omnipresent Spirit who fills the universe, and cannot be completely contained within any tabernacle, temple or building. God dwelled in the Most Holy Place between the cherubims above the Mercy Seat over the Ark of Covenant, and yet was still omnipresent throughout the universe. Keeping this in mind consider the following:

Micah Chapter 1

2 Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord GOD be witness against you, the LORD from his holy temple.

3 For, behold, the LORD cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.

Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

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POINT # 14. Bobby: A lamb without spot or blemish had to be offered to atone for the sins of Israel each and every year. However, Jesus, as the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world, became the sacrifice without spot or blemish (sin) to be the sacrifice to end all sacrifices. Remember what Abraham told Isaac in Genesis 22:8, "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide "Himself" a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together." That day God did supply a substitute for Isaac, but He actually became the Lamb in the body of Jesus Christ.

Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Hebrews 9:22. So by His plan (Word), God, the invisible Spirit, prepared Himself a body, born of the virgin Mary, and dwelt among us. "And the Word (which was God) was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." John 1:14. This "flesh" was the only "begotten" Son of God. Paul said that the Son (flesh) is the image of the invisible God. Colossians 1 :13-15 ... the "express image of His person (singular)." Hebrews 1:3.

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POINT # 15. Bobby: The body (flesh), the Lamb/image of God ... the Son, as He was to be known ... was in the mind of God from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8) and prophesied as early as Genesis 3:15. Hundreds of years later the prophet Isaiah prophesied," ... Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call His name Immanuel ... which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US." Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23. "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. To Joseph the angel said, "...thou shall call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people FROM THEIR SIN (NOT in their sin) ... and he called His name JESUS." Matthew 1:21-25.

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POINT # 16. Bobby: Fosset’s Bible Encyclopedia declares that Jesus means Jehovah-Salvation, or Jehovah is become Saviour.

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POINT # 17. Bobby: The name of God was not fully revealed in the Old Testament. God was referred to in many ways. The abbreviated form of His name was given as YHWH (known as the Tetragrammaton). It is regarded by some to be too holy to be uttered or even spelled. YHWH was an abbreviation which could not even be pronounced. Vowels had to be added in order to become Yahweh in Hebrew ... and Jehovah in English (Strong's # 03068) ... which was translated in the King James Version of the Holy Bible 6510 times as LORD (all CAPS), 4 times as God (Capital "G") and 4 times as Jehovah ... followed by a descriptive term.

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POINT # 18. Bobby: The following examples are how YHWH (Jehovah - LORD) was used with descriptive terms:

Jehovah-Jireh - The Lord provides. Gen. 22:14.

Jehovah-Rapha - The Lord that healeth. Exod. 15:26.

Jehovah-Nissi - The Lord is our banner. Exod. 17:15.

Jehovah-Shalom - The Lord our peace. Judges 6:24.

Jehovah-Ra-ah - The Lord is my shepherd. Ps. 23:1.

Jehovah-Tsidkenu - The Lord our righteousness. Jer. 23:6.

Jehovah-Shammah - The Lord is present. Ezek. 48:35.

When God prepared Himself a body to redeem man from sin, He then revealed His name ... JESUS - Jehovah-Salvation.

(**IF** only those who accuse the "oneness" people who embrace the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine of being "JESUS ONLY," fully understood! And they could **IF** they would only lay aside their biased indoctrination, traditions, preconceived ideals, and theories ... and diligently pray about this and independently study their Bible with an open heart and an open mind ... that's how it was revealed through the scriptures to me, anyway.)

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POINT # 19. Bobby: When the time came for the "new thing" that God had promised in Isaiah 43:19, He revealed His name to Joseph and Mary when He dispatched it to them by the angel. It is ... JESUS ... which literally means, "Jehovah-Salvation," or "Jehovah is become Saviour." Jesus was more than a prophet ... more than an angel ... more than a created being ... and more than any inferior second person of some three persons Godhead theory which evolved centuries AFTER Christ. The name, "JESUS," is the greatest name that has ever been uttered by mortal tongue. YHWH was just an abbreviation ... a prelude ... a substitute just like the substitute that took Isaac's place upon the altar of sacrifice until the "real" Lamb of God came. Later on God did reveal His name to man when he dispatched it by an angel to Joseph and Mary to give to the Christ Child. Jesus, was NOT just a name that Joseph and Mary just woke up one morning and decided on.

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POINT # 20. Bobby: The angel announced, "For unto you is born this day ... a Saviour, which is CHRIST THE LORD." Luke 2:11. Throughout the Old Testament God is also called the Lord. Deuteronomy clearly tells us ... "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is one LORD:" Compare the following references to Lord:

The Lord God is the Creator. Isaiah 42:5.

The Lord Jesus is the Creator. John 1:3, 10.

The Lord God said, "I am He." Isaiah 43:10.

The Lord Jesus said, "I am He." John 8:24.

The Lord God is the only Saviour. Isaiah 43:10, 11.

The Lord Jesus is the Saviour. Titus 1:4.

The Lord God shall reign forever. Psalms. 146:10.

The Lord Jesus reign forever. Luke 1 :33.

The Lord God is the King of Israel. Isaiah 43:15.

The Lord Jesus is the King of Israel. Matt. 27:37.

The Lord God is the First and the Last. Isaiah 44:6.

The Lord Jesus is the First and the Last. Revelation 1:8.

The Lord God is Almighty. Genesis 17:1.

The Lord Jesus is Almighty. Revelation 1:8.

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POINT # 21. Bobby: According to Deuteronomy 6:4 and Ephesians 4:5 There is only ONE Lord. When Paul was struck down on the road to Damascus, he cried, "Who art thou, Lord?" And the Lord said, "I AM JESUS." Acts 9:5. Beyond a shadow of a doubt the Lord God Jehovah of the Old Testament is the Lord Jesus Christ of the New Testament!

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POINT # 22. Bobby: Jesus confirmed that He was NOT a separate Person, but God manifested in the flesh when He said to Philip, " ... He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.. .The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself; but the father that DWELLETH IN ME, He doeth the works ... Believe me that I am in the Father, and the FATHER IN ME ..." John 14:9-11. Jesus also simply stated, "I and My Father are ONE (not two)." John 10:30 ... prompting the Jews to immediately to take up stones to stone Him because, as they put it, "...thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

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POINT # 23. Bobby: When Jesus emphasized the importance of people knowing His identity as He taught in the temple by saying, "...For if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins ...They understood not that He spake to them of the FATHER." John 8:24-27.

People today still do not understand the relationship of the Father and the Son ... the Spirit and the flesh - which had 2 natures ... because of the indoctrination they've been subjected to.

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POINT # 24. Bobby: When Jesus was baptized by John in Jordan River, the voice of God spoke, "This is my beloved Son, IN WHOM I am well pleased." Matthew 3:17. Notice, God said, "IN WHOM" - not with whom! "To wit, that GOD WAS IN CHRIST, reconciling the world unto Himself..." 2 Corinthians 5:19. "... the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." John 14:10.

The difference in the tabernacle of badgers skins and the tabernacle of flesh was the tabernacle of badgers skins was inanimate, and the tabernacle of flesh was a living, breathing, supernaturally conceived and born human which had 2 natures ... one Divine and one human. I use the analogy of Clark Kent and Superman a lot when talking about the relationship of the Father and the Son because most people can relate to Clark Kent being Superman incognito ... not two separate "persons."

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POINT # 25. Bobby: It is important to keep in mind that God can manifest Himself in a multitude of different ways to multitudes of different people in billions of different geographical locations all over the globe ... SIMULTANEOUSLY ... but that does NOT make Him more than ONE PERSON. Also, it is important to point out that Jesus almost always said and did the things He said and did for the benefit of others ... and to set an example. The voice from heaven was for the benefit of others:

John 11:42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

John Chapter 12:

28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.

30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.

God had to do many things just for the benefit of doubting, sinful humanity. Do you really think it was necessary for the stone be rolled away for Jesus to come out of the grave? No way! But He did it for our benefit. Once a person understands who Jesus "really" is, they will not stumble at His words as many did way back then ... and as many still do to this very day. However, just as there were those way back then who had "ears to hear," there are people today who have layed aside their indoctrination with all the creeds, statements, declarations and articles of faith of denominationalism and have opened their mind and heart to the unadulterated Word of God ... and are discovering for themselves, through independent study (just as I did), the Truth of God's Word IN ITS ENTIRETY!

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POINT # 26. Bobby: As Stephen was facing death, he saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God (Acts 7:55). This scripture is often taken "literally" by those who wish to use it to support the three "persons" theory even though their third "person" is NOT even mentioned. It is important to point out that Stephen only prayed to Jesus (not to anyone else) just before he died (regardless of the literal translation many try to give this verse) ... which insults a lot of indoctrinated denominationalists today when they encounter those who embrace the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine, and who focus such attention on Jesus. The offense comes because these poor people, who have been so indoctrinated, think that such attention being emphasized on Jesus leaves the Father and the Holy Ghost out, and is, therefore, disrespectful to God. Thus their label, "Jesus Only." Personally, I wear it as a badge of honor ... knowing what I know about who Jesus "really" is ... and knowing where that label comes from.

In the Book of Revelation, there was only ONE Throne of God and only ONE who sat on the Throne. No where does the Bible mention three co-equal "persons" sitting on one Throne ... or each one having their own Throne, which further exposes the error ot the trinitarians in trying to understand spiritual things by interpreting the Bible literally. We know God is invisible. We know no man has ever seen God. And we know God is omnipresent throughout the universe ... and there is no one beside Him. Therefore, the right hand of God MUST mean something besides a geographical location.

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POINT # 27. Bobby: The term "right hand" does not form a part of another Person or Deity. It is symbolic of a place of power, authority and acceptance with God. Just as the left hand of God is symbolic of rejection (Matthew 25:33) ... the sheep on the right and the goats on the left. Jesus said, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matthew 28:18. Paul said that Christ is the power and the wisdom of God (1 Corinthians 1:24). Note the following symbolical uses of the term "right hand" as correlated to power and authority:

My right hand hath spanned the heavens. Isaiah 48:13.

The Lord is at the right hand of the poor. Psalms 109:31.

God led Israel by the right hand of Moses. Isaiah 63:12.

The Lord was at David’s right hand. Psalms 16:8.

To give literal meanings to the scriptures like these would suggest that a physical arm came down from the sky to lead Israel, or a physical nose came down and parted the waters in Exodus 15:8. See how ridiculous things can become when trying to make the Bible say what you want it to say, or trying to understand the spiritual by literal interpretations of the scriptures.

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POINT # 28. Bobby: According to those who embrace the three "persons" theory, Jesus is the second "person" ... and only one of three "persons" ... "in" the Godhead (which I've already defined as "the very essence or complete nature and attributes" of God). Therefore, the question should be asked of trinitarians, "Is Jesus 'in' the Godhead, or is the Godhead 'in' Jesus?" **IF** ... through logic and human reasoning ... those who embrace the three "persons" theory can convince themselves and/or others that Jesus is only one person of three who are "in" the Godhead, the theory of three "persons" would appear to be valid. However, **IF** the Godhead ("the very essence or complete nature and attributes" of God) is "in" Jesus, then there can only be ONE Person in the Godhead because it is impossible for THREE separate and distinct "persons" to occupy the same body. And the Bible clearly states, "For IN HIM (Christ) DWELLETH all the FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY. And ye are COMPLETE IN HIM, which is the HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITY AND POWER." Colossians 2:9-10.

So there is only ONE PERSON in which the Godhead is manifested, revealed, contained, and that is JESUS! Because all the fulness of the GODHEAD ("the very essence or complete nature and attributes" of God) was "IN" JESUS "bodily" according to Colossian 2:9! For this reason, many who embrace the three "persons" theory erroneously refer to those who embrace the Apostles' One God Monotheistic Doctrine as being .... "JESUS ONLY" ... as if they are being disrespectful to the other two "persons" of their three "persons" theory and are not as spiritually discerning as they. Some even look upon those they refer to as being "JESUS ONLY" as being demonic ... part of a cult ... their enemies ... practitioners of false religion and the works of darkness.

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POINT # 29. Bobby: In Jesus Christ, two wills or natures are portrayed: a human will and a Divine will. He was man (flesh) and He was God (Spirit). As man He prayed in the garden of Gethsemane, "O my Father.. not as I WILL, but as THOU WILT." Matthew 26:39. Also He cried out on the cross, "My God, my God. Why host thou forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46. Certainly these Scriptures do not imply that Jesus Christ is a separate Person or Deity with the Father. For Deity does not pray to Deity! Furthermore, Deity cannot die! Those claiming to be spiritually enlightened by embracing the three "persons" theory which came along centuries AFTER Christ, just can't make the distinction of the Spirit and flesh (dual natures) of Jesus Christ. Nor can they tell when the flesh (human side) is speaking or when the Spirit (Divine side) is speaking.

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POINT # 30. Bobby: As man, Jesus Christ prayed. It was not Deity praying to Deity ... nor was He praying to Himself. It was the human nature (the flesh) praying to the Divine nature (the Spirit). His human nature (the flesh) did not want to die, but He knew the will of the Spirit must be done. Jesus was fully man and He was fully God.

Almighty God chose to take upon Himself the form of a servant in order to experience everything we humans experience and to do what no other human was qualified to do ... redeem us. At Calvary the flesh (human nature) cried out to the Spirit (Divine nature) the prophetic words of Psalms 22:1. "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Afterward the Spirit left the tabernacle of flesh (the body), Jesus fulfilled his role and died. Three days later the Spirit of God re-entered the tabernacle of flesh and Jesus came forth victorious over death, hell and the grave. As a man, Jesus hungered, He slept, He became weary, He wept, He increased in wisdom and stature, He prayed, and He died. (See Matthew 4:2, Matthew 8:24, John 4:6, John 11:35, Luke 2:52, Matthew 26:39, Matthew 27:50.)

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POINT # 31. Bobby: As God, Jesus healed the sick, He cast out devils, He raised the dead, He calmed the sea, He walked upon the water, He forgave sins, He answered prayer, and He arose from the grave. (See Matthew 4,23, Luke 8:35, John 11:43-44, Mark 4:39, Mark 2:5, John 14:14, John 2:19-21.)

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 says, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

Aside from that, I truly do not understand why some people can't see the 2 natures of Jesus Christ or why some people try to form 2 separate "persons" of Deity for the Father and the Son.

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POINT # 32. Bobby: Jesus Christ said, "I can of mine own self (human nature) do nothing.. (John 5:30). ..but the FATHER that DWELLETH IN ME (Divine nature), HE doeth the works (John 14:10)." As man, He even expressed His limited knowledge (Mark 13:32); but as God, He knew all things (John 21:17). Compare the following titles which portray the dual nature of Jesus Christ:

DIVINE SIDE

HUMAN SIDE

Everlasting Father - Isaiah 9:6 Son of Man - Luke 9:22
Chief Shepherd - 1 Peter 5:4 Lamb - 1 Peter 1:19
King of Kings - Revelation 17:14 Servant - Philippians 2:7
The Almighty - Revelation 1:8 Lord God - John 20:28
High Priest - Hebrews 2:17 Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5

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POINT # 33. Bobby: "Without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." I Timothy 3:16. How clearly brought out is this glorious truth that Jesus Christ was God manifested in the flesh. He became Spirit in body to bring redemption to man.

This is the scripture God used to reveal Himself to me many years ago when I layed aside my indoctrination and began to independently study the Bible. When the scales fell from my eyes at this verse, it was as if I had been gazing into a 3-D picture and saw something that had been concealed, but had been there all along, that I wasn't able to see until I looked "into" it the right way.

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POINT # 34. Bobby: God, the eternal Spirit, is "Omni-present" - everywhere at the same time; therefore, His Substance fills the universe. The Holy Spirit cannot be separated from the Father. That which was conceived in the virgin Mary was of the Holy Ghost. Matthew 1:20. The truth becomes evident that the Holy Spirit is the Father of the Son. To try to separate the Father and the Holy Spirit and form two separate "persons" (Spirits), would give the Son two Fathers, which is impossible. Definitely the Father and the Holy Spirit would have to be the same Spirit.

As a former trinitarian myself, I could not understand how the Father and the Holy Spirit could be two separate "persons" or Spirits. And I've never met a trinitarian who can explain how that can possibly be ... regardless of how much education they have or indoctrination they've gone through. Which brings up another point. To hear some people's slide ruler explanations on this subject, it would take having a law degree and library full of books, commentaries and research material for anyone to understand the Bible ... and that's just NOT the case. Peter, James and John were not highly educated men, but they turned their world upside down for Jesus. The Bible is NOT complicted. People are complicated ... especially those who have been educated beyond their intelligence and/or have been complicated beyond repair.

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POINT # 35. Bobby: There is only ONE SPIRIT. Ephesians 4:4. "For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into one body..." 1 Corinthians 12:13. The Bible proves that the ONE Spirit is the Holy Ghost. "This spake He (Jesus) of the SPIRIT, which they that believe on Him should receive: far the HOLY GHOST was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified." John 7:39.

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POINT # 36. Bobby: The Bible proves that the ONE Spirit is the Father. "There is but ONE GOD, the FATHER..." 1 Corinthians 8:6. In John 4:24, Jesus said, "GOD is a SPIRIT..." Here the human side was speaking of the Divine side ... the Father ... the Spirit (NOT Spirits -plural). No one would deny that He was speaking of the Father here.

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POINT # 37. Bobby: The Bible proves that the ONE Spirit is Jesus. There is ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST. 1 Corinthians 8:6. "Now the LORD (Jesus) is that SPIRIT..." 2 Corinthians 3:17.

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POINT # 38. Bobby: "There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE." 1 John 5:7.

Notice it does NOT say, "these three "persons" are one" ... AND it does NOT say, "these three are "as" one." The Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost are three offices which God (singular -one) occupies and functions in, just as you and I are one, and also occupy more than one office and function in more than one capacity ... like father, son and husband ... or teacher, student and administrator.

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POINT # 39. Bobby: By no means did Jesus teach that the Holy Ghost was another Person. Jesus said, "The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things..." John 14:26. Again Jesus said, "...if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you. John 16:7. Also Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." John 14:18. Compare John 14:26 with John 16:7; Jesus spoke of the Father and Himself as ONE. Compare John 14:26 with John 14:18. Jesus spoke of the Holy Ghost and Himself as ONE. Since the Father and Jesus are one, and Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one: then the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit are ONE. The Holy Spirit is referred to as "He." But that should come as no surprise since the Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the same. Besides, God is referred to as "He" throughout entire the Bible. (Also compare the following Scriptures which show that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are ONE: Matthew 10:20, Mark 13:11, Luke 21:15.)

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POINT # 40. Bobby: The Bible says the Father and Jesus are ONE. The Bible says Jesus and the Holy Spirit are ONE. And the Bible says the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost are ONE. Those who try to create a separate "person" by Jesus' reference to "another" Comforter in John 14:16 fail to acknowledge and/or understand that the Holy Spirit living in the hearts of believers throughout the entire New Testament Church Dispensation (as opposed to God manifested in flesh living among believers during that time) is another form of God -NOT another "person" of God.

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POINT # 41. Bobby: A trinitarian concept contends that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one in holiness, love, glory, wisdom and eternal power; but, three "persons." No Scripture can be found to support such a concept. Note the following:

His holiness (not their holiness) - Psalms 47:8

His love (not their love) - Romans 5:8

My glory (not our glory) - Isaiah 42:8

The only wise God (not the wise three) - 1 Timothy 1:17

His eternal power (not their eternal power) - Romans 1:20

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POINT # 42. Bobby: The term persons (plural) used in reference to God does violence to the oneness of God. "I am the Lord.. .and my glory will I not give to another." Isaiah 42:8. The Bible proves that God is ONE IN PERSON. John declared, "...I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne." Revelation 4:2.

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POINT # 43. Bobby: When the Holy Ghost came on the day of Pentecost, 120 disciples were filled (including Mary, the mother of Jesus) and began to speak with tongues as the SPIRIT gave them utterance. Acts 2:4. Peter preached that the Holy Ghost was the Spirit of God. As he used the prophecy of Joel 2:28, he said, "It shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of MY SPIRIT (singular ... not my Spirits -plural) UPON ALL FLESH..." Acts 2:17.

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POINT # 44. Bobby: Paul used the terms "Spirit of God" and "Spirit of Christ" as synonymous terms in reference to the Holy Spirit. He said, "Ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of His." Romans 8:9. And we've already established that there there is only one Spirit of Deity. (Also see Colossians 1:27 and Galatians 4:6.)

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POINT # 45. Bobby: There is ONE GOD and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL. Ephesians 4:6. There is only ONE GOD manifested in the flesh and received in the hearts of believers today ... and His name is JESUS!

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POINT # 46. Bobby: History also proves that the truth about one God was universally preached by the New Testament Church for many years after Christ, until the development of the "trinity" doctrine by the Roman Catholic Church.

Encyclopedia International, 1975 Edition, Vol.18, p.226 - The doctrine of the "Trinity" did not form part of the apostles’ preaching, as this is reported in the New Testament.

New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967 Edition, Vol.13, p.1021 - The first use of the Latin word "trinitas" (trinity) with reference to God, is found in Tertullian’s writings (about 213 A.D.) He was the first to use the term "persons" (plural) in a Trinitarian context.

Encyclopedia Americana, 1957 Edition, Vol.27, p.69 - The word "Trinity" is not in Scripture. The term "persons" (plural) is not applied in Scripture to the Trinity.

World Book Encyclopedia, 1975 Edition, Vol. T, p.363 - Belief in Father, Son and Holy Ghost was first defined by the earliest general council of churches. This was the First Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D.

New International Encyclopedia, Vol.22, p.476 - The Catholic faith is this: We worship one God in Trinity, but there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Ghost. The Glory equal - the Majesty co-eternal. The doctrine is not found in its fully developed form in the Scriptures. Modern theology does not seek to find it in the Old Testament. At the time of the Reformation the Protestant Church took aver the doctrine of the Trinity without serious examination.

Life Magazine, October 30, 1950, Vol.29, No.18, p.51 - The Catholics made this statement concerning their doctrine of the Trinity, to defend the dogma of the assumption of Mary, in an article written by Graham Greene: "Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in Scripture... But the PROTESTANT CHURCHES have themselves accepted such dogmas as THE TRINITY, for which there is NO SUCH PRECISE AUTHORITY in the Gospels"

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POINT # 47. Bobby: No record will you find that the New Testament Church ever believed or taught the doctrine of the trinity. For the Scriptures prove that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three manifestations (not "persons") of the ONE GOD; and God is ONE IN PERSON. In Creation God was manifested as the Father (Invisible Spirit - John 1:18 & John 4:24); in redemption God manifested Himself as the Son (Spirit in body - Colossians 1: 13-15 & Colossians 2:9); and following His ascension in bodily form, God has manifested Himself as the Holy Spirit, living in the hearts of believers as the "earnest" (part) of our inheritance ... and will remain as such throughout the entire New Testament Church Dispensation until that which is perfect is come. (Spirit in believers - Acts 2:4, 17, Romans 8:9, Ephesians 4:6).

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POINT # 48. Bobby: Independent Bible students acknowledge truth. Honest hearts, receive the truth. There can only be ONE "ALMIGHTY." There can only be ONE "SUPREME BEING": the eternal and infinite Spirit, Creator and Sovereign of the universe, and Saviour of man. God said, "...Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Saviour." Isaiah 43:10-11, "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God and there is NONE ELSE." Isaiah 45:22, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." Revelation 1:8." In that day shall there be ONE LORD, and His NAME ONE." Zechariah 14:9. And every tongue shall confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. Philippians 2:11.

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POINT # 49. Bobby: Revelation Chapter 17 describes a great city which is referred to as a whore who sits on seven mountains and who is arrayed in purple and scarlet and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. She is rich, powerful and very influential in the world of commerce and politics. She has some daughters, and is called the "MOTHER" of harlots. This city of seven mountains had been made drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus Christ. The enrollment system was quite simple ... either a person aligned themselves with the "universal" state run church and its doctrine or they were targeted for execution. If it has been a while since you’ve read Revelation Chapter 17, you should read it again real soon! Where is the City of Seven Hills? What doctrine originated from the City of seven hills? What was done to those who would not accept her doctrine and/or compromise? Simple, they were targeted for execution! That's how serious this stuff is. Either most people are unaware of this, or they think it was just a blight in our history or some ancient myth, and nothing to be concerned about today. You've probably heard about the catacombs underneath Rome where Christians would hide to hold their worship services in secret because of severe persecution. Remember ... the Apostle Paul was executed at Rome for the One God Monotheistic Doctrine he preached by revelation from God after his conversion ... the message that infuriated some of the Jews, while others recognized Jesus as their Messiah and converted to it just like Paul did ... and as is true to this very day.

Also, let me say here, that this is NOT an attack on people who are Catholic nor am I anti-Semetic. There are many God-fearing Catholics and Jews. As a matter of fact, both of my sisters are Catholic. I do not feel that my life is in danger by either one of them. And I would no more attack them than I would attack people whose ancestors were cruel slave owners. Being from Mississippi, I know how biased and prejudiced people can be on BOTH sides of that issue! We can't be held responsible for that which we had absolutely no control over and were never a part of. Likewise, good and decent Catholic people shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of the Catholic Church's past ... nor should Jews be mistreated because of the crucifixion.

However, it is the doctrine of the Catholic Church which I want to address here. Revelation Chapter 17 is very significant concerning the church of Rome and the "mother of harlots".

History records that a Roman Emperor named Constantine was very instrumental in setting up the First General Council of Churches in 325 A.D., known as the Council of Nicaea. The Church of Rome became the Official Church of the Roman empire with Constantine as its head. This "universal" church with its man made doctrine was established so that EVERY subject of the Empire would belong to the Official Church of the Rome. The THREE PERSON DOCTRINE which later evolved and was very clearly defined as such, was purely an orchestrated effort by Constantine designed to appease both the MONOTHEISTS (One God Christians) and the POLYTHEISTS (Multiple god pagans). From a strictly political standpoint, I guess you might say it was a brilliant move. Constantine stopped the persecution of Christians for a while so I don't guess he was all bad. However, the Roman Emporers were responsible for killing and torturing people (Christians) much like that of Hitler's Nazi death camps. The True Church was literally driven underground. As a matter of fact, the May 1976 revised edition of Halley's's Bible Handbook reports on pages 761-763 "...the church was regarded as a secret society..."; "...Christians were hunted in cave and forest; they were burned, thrown to wild beasts, put to death by every torture cruelty could devise." "Christian graves are variously estimated at between 2,000,000 and 7,000,000." Papal Persecutions against Protestants in later centuries far out numbered the Early Christian Martyrs under Pagan Rome.

Anyone who thinks I am making this stuff up may be interested in the following:

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What are the seven hills of Rome?

Rome is known to be built upon seven hills. Rome was said to have been founded when Romulus and Remus, twin sons of Mars, ended up at the foot of the hill Palatine and founded the city. The other six hills are Capitoline (the seat of government), Quirinal, Viminal, Esquiline, Caelian, and Aventine.

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Pope Asks Pardon For Sins Of Church

By Sarah Delaney

Special to The Washington Post

Monday, March 13, 2000; Page A01

VATICAN CITY, March 12 -- In an unprecedented plea, Pope John Paul II today asked divine forgiveness for the sins committed by the Roman Catholic Church over the last 2,000 years against Jews, other Christian faiths, women, the poor and various ethnic and racial groups. - (I'll send you the rest of the lengthy article if you are interested).

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It is my position that this unprecedented move by the pope took place in order to set the stage for the coming together of Catholics and Protestants. Which, I believe, is going to take place as we move towards a one world government, economy, and "universal" religious system (which, by the way, will NOT be accepted by everyone). I am NOT saying that an end to the blood shed between Catholics and Protestants in places like Ireland would be a bad thing, but I am saying the "signs of the times" are all around us. And those who believe the Bible, and in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, had better wake up and set their house in order.

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POINT # 50. Bobby: There is a TREMENDOUS difference in "THREE PERSONS" of God, and that of THREE POSITIONS, OFFICES OR MANIFESTATIONS of God. My friend, the only distinction in the Godhead is FLESH and SPIRIT - not THREE separate and distinct PERSONS! God is a SPIRIT (John 4:24) and a spirit hath not flesh and bones (Luke 24:39). God is the WORD (John 1:1) and the WORD was made flesh (John 1:14). God was manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). It was NOT the body of Jesus Christ that was Deity, but rather the Spirit of Almighty God that dwelled in that sinless body (John 14:10). As man, Jesus knew pain, hunger, thirst, etc. As God, Jesus forgave sins, healed the sick, performed miracles, walked on the water, raised the dead, etc. Because of this "DUAL NATURE" of Jesus Christ, there were times when the human side (flesh) spoke, and there were times when the Divine side (Spirit) spoke. The THREE PERSONS THEORY has been so well indoctrinated that hardly anyone questions it!

I am a father, I am a son and I am a husband, but none of these TITLES is my name! These are TITLES of the different positions (offices) that I occupy, YET I am ONE PERSON. The THREE PERSON DOCTRINE is a product of man - PERIOD, END OF ISSUE!

I have absolutely NO malice or animosity in my heart towards trinitarian people. I know the TRUTH shall remain standing when everything else has fallen. However, some "die hard" trinitarians VICIOUSLY attack me because I dare question their THEORY of the Godhead and point out its many SERIOUS flaws. And some Jews attack me because they refuse to accept Jesus as their Messiah. Every once in a while I run across a person who is really a "TRUTH SEEKER," who isn't afraid of TRUTH in its entirety, and are man enough or woman enough to admit error when the Bible does not agree with their theology. Then they very willingly make the necessary adjustments and get over it and get on with it!

It really isn't hard to PROVE where the trinitarians' doctrine originated, when it originated and by whom it originated. Even though most of them will insist that it came straight from the Bible. **IF** there was a trinity or **IF** God was THREE separate and distinct co-equal, co-eternal and co-existent PERSONS as the trinitarians insist, certainly the Bible ought to say so some place. But it doesn't! Since the Bible does NOT give any SPECIFIC authority for such a belief, MILLIONS are told it is a "MYSTERY" which they must accept by faith, because it cannot be explained or understood. You may accept that. I once did myself, but there came a time in my life when I had to find answers to my many questions about the trinity, and I was not afraid of what I would learn when I began to search it out! If you have a Strong's exhaustive concordance and look at every scripture in the New Testament which mentions the words "mystery" or "mysteries" ... as I did ... you will discover that, that excuse can NOT be used to explain why the trinity can't be adequately explained or fully understood. God bless!

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Bobby G. Richardson.

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